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Official r/NFL Week 14 Power Rankings

Welcome to the week 14 Official NFL Power Rankings! With circus catches and beatdowns alongside great games, there was plenty to discuss even before a MNF Scorigami that might already be airing on ESPN classic. 32/32 Reporting
# Team Δ Record Comment
1. Chiefs -- 12-1 The Dolphins gave the Chiefs all they could handle in the first quarter of Sunday's game, but the Chiefs once again proved that when they are focused, they are the most dangerous team in the NFL. Travis Kelce, the NFL's leading receiver currently, had another monster game showing why he's a future hall of famer. However, after having five 10+ point wins in the first eight weeks of the season, the Chiefs last five wins have all been won by one score. Will this trend ultimately matter come playoff time? It's hard to argue with results, as the Chiefs 12-1 record is the best record through 13 games in franchise history. The ultimate barometer for the Chiefs is this week as they travel to play the Saints, hopefully with Drew Brees. Many questions will be answered in this clash of two top five teams.
2. Packers +2 10-3 There always seems to be one Lions-Packer game a year that ends up being some kind of adventure. Rodgers and Adams were as good as ever but the Lions kept on lingering throughout the game. Mason "Silver Fox" Crosby nailed an insurance 58 yard field goal with 3:30 to play and made a touchdown-saving tackle on the immediate kickoff. Aside from Crosby, the special teams really leave a lot to be desired, especially after the hands team almost allowed a onside kick recovery (c'mon y'all I don't need Bostic flashbacks). Packers officially won the division game and are now the projected 1 seed, which is pretty neat ngl. Onto a Saturday game I guess?
3. Bills +2 10-3 For a team that was searching desperately in 2019 for a signature win, the 2020 Bills have found them everywhere they turn. This team has had one of the toughest schedules in the league, but except for a couple games they've shown up every time they've had to. This is the second-best team in the conference. The Bills bandwagons are circling now. Josh Allen's extending his baseball glove-sized hand. He says "get in nerds, we're goin' to the Super Bowl."
4. Saints -1 10-3 This loss = Hurts. Dennis Allen seemingly had no answers for the rookie QB and then Miles Sanders piled on as well. "All the things we didn't want to allow happen, happened in that game." This was Sean Payton's post-game assessment and it's fair. Taysom Hill had an acceptable statline but it hides how sloppy he looked on the field. The defense struggled with its assignment to contain Hurts and keep him from getting outside the pocket - a worrying sign considering the next QB on the schedule.
5. Steelers -3 11-2 The Steelers schedule has been insane. 6 days between NYG and DEN. 14 days between HOU and PHI. 10 days between JAX and BAL. But with that BAL game, the Steelers played them, WFT and BUF in 12 days. 3 games in 12 days. The team is out of LBs and OL. This has been a challenging season for everyone, but this is unprecedented. The Steelers have 8 days until CIN, then 6 days until IND. 10 out of 16 games played with an irregular schedule? You can argue the drops are kicking their ass, but this schedule has been brutal. No wonder they've lost 2 straight.
6. Rams -- 9-4 Imagine only scoring 3 points in a game.
7. Colts +1 9-4 Kenny Moore is a player underrated by national media but massively valuable to the Colts. GM Chris Ballard made re-signing him a priority after his breakout 2018 season. Moore has been a reliable performer throughout his tenure as a Colt and added an exclamation point with his insane one-handed interception on Sunday.
8. Titans +1 9-4 Derrick Henry had his second 200+ yard 2 TD game against the Jaguars on Sunday. The performance made Henry the 7th player to rush for 1,500+ yards and 14+ TDs through 13 games.
9. Seahawks +1 9-4 Nothing cures suicidal thoughts losing like playing the Jets, baby. Sunday was never much of a game, as it was all Seahawks all day. Russell Wilson threw for 4 touchdowns, Jamal Adams broke the single season sack record for defensive backs, and Geno Smith got to play a full quarter against the team that drafted him. What a way to get over a bad loss to the Giants. Up next the Seahawks will take on their final NFC East opponent of the season; Football Team.
10. Ravens +2 8-5 This ranker is a brown man, writing about how Lamar Jackson lost 20 pounds dropping some brown, dropping a TD to Brown, to go ahead against the Browns. They go for two. So in response, K-hunt ties the game, 42-42. In response, the Llama sets up the GOAT to nail a 54-yarder, 16th game winner of his career! To say nothing else of the game -- 9 total fucking rushing touchdowns, tying a record held since two defunct teams played each other before anyone on reddit was born... and Jackson runs for a MNF QB record 124 yards -- but still gets all the clutch plays done with his arm, with this middling group of receivers. The even greater news amidst all this is that the schedule doesn't look so bad in the closing stretch, and inspired play like this past Monday from the offense will ease the burden of the Ravens' gradually depleting secondary. Best wishes to Trace McSorely who made an extremely commendable effort to set them up for Lamar's return.
11. Browns -4 9-4 Did you bet the over? The Browns and Ravens combined for 89 points in an absolute rollercoaster of a game. While they did not win, the Browns have shown they are contenders. With two games to go a real shot at the playoffs is on the table. The Browns will face the Giants in another prime time game.
12. Buccaneers -1 8-5 The Buccaneers pulled off a 26-14 win over the Vikings, bringing their playoff chances to 94%. Vikes kicker Dan Bailey channeled his inner Gary Anderson to win the Bucs' game ball on an 0/3 kicking performance with an additional missed XP. Rookie Antoine Winfield Jr. played a disruptive game against his dad's former team and is looking like he has the potential to be one of the league's next great safeties. With only interim coaches to close out the remaining three games of the season, the Bucs should have smooth sailing into the Wild Card round.
13. Dolphins -- 8-5 There are no consolation prizes in the NFL, but a single score loss to the best team in the league while the backup waterboy is lining up in the slot is about as close to a one as you'll ever get. While he was able to pull off the win, even Patrick Mahomes couldn't keep this ball-hawking defense from getting a hold of the ball, often. And at some point, if people don't start talking about Xavien Howard in the DPOY conversation, he's just going to go intercept the damned award himself. Hopefully, the long, long list of injured Dolphins get well soon.
14. Cardinals +1 7-6 A monster day from Haason Reddick and the defense finally put the Cardinals back on the winning track. Breaking a franchise record with 5 sacks was one thing, but getting all the turnovers was huge. Hopefully the offense feeds off of it and has a good week in preparing for a big game with Philly that has huge playoff implications. It will take a complete team effort to beat Philly with Jalen Hurts starting fresh of a win against the Saints.
15. Raiders -1 7-6 The Raiders looked really bad against the Colts, just like they have for the better part of the last 6 weeks. Luckily Gruden finally made the call to fire Pauly G, something fans have been calling for for the past 2 seasons. Only time will tell if it's too little, too late. Every game from here on out is a must win if the Raiders want to make the playoffs.
16. Washington FT +3 6-7 Washington is finding ways to win instead of finding ways to lose. The offense was not able to score a TD so the defense went ahead and spotted them 14 points. Chase Young notches his first TD and continues to prove his worth as the 2nd overall pick as a game wrecker.
17. Vikings -- 6-7 Dalvin Cook became the first back to rush for over 100 yards against the Bucs in over 20 games, but the Vikings were unable to convert long drives into points as Dan Bailey went 0/4 on field goals and extra points. Couple that with some questionable officiating, the Vikings' banged up front seven generating zero pressure on Tom Brady and plenty of self-inflicted wounds and it all adds up to a real tough loss that knocks the Vikings down from wild card favorites to playoff long shots.
18. Bears +5 6-7 The Bears finally snapped their six-game losing streak by rolling over the Texans without much difficulty. Trubisky attempted one throw longer than 20 yards.
19. Patriots -3 6-7 Los Angeles, is a land of contrasts - In a span of four days the Patriots' hopes for a postseason were revived and then unceremoniously squashed. Run Defense, Offensive Line, Cam and the Receivers, There just are too many holes to cover up with week to week coaching, this team needs some reworking over the offseason. The Pats end the season with the division as always, lets hope to fuck someone’s season or seeding up. And also the Jets.
20. 49ers -2 5-8 The 49ers defense did their job, holding the Washington offense to a total of 9 points, but the offense had two takeaways brought back for touchdowns and could not recover. The team looks to right the ship this week against the Cowboys.
21. Broncos +5 5-8 Drew Lock put up the third-highest passer rating in team history — behind a couple guys you may know. In the battle of 4-8's, the Broncos somehow managed to not blow a sizeable fourth-quarter lead and emerge victorious. Winning the game but losing The Hunt for a Better Draft Pick. Will the team remain in purgatory? Stay tuned.
22. Giants -2 5-8 It’s a real joy to watch the rest of the teams in the up-for-grabs NFC East secure wins, with one being against a top-5 team, all while watching your team play so poorly they start setting franchise records. At least we can say the hype was fun while it lasted, right?
23. Falcons -1 4-9 Outplayed by a team whose most impressive win is a tossup between the Bengals, Jaguars, and Jets? Check. Outcoached by special teams ace Anthony Lynn? Check. Ten point lead blown, two interceptions with under five minutes left, double check. Good thing age is just a number for the 32nd youngest team in the league.
24. Panthers -3 4-9 I'm not sure where the Panthers go from here. Coach Rhule has said that he isn't going to do the team and fans a disservice by beginning to evaluate players, which means that we're going to see more of Teddy Bridgewater (who is 0-7 in one score games this season) crumble at the end of the game. Playing at Lambeau in primetime in December is one of the hardest things a team can do, and it's not going to be an easy test for the Panthers, who so far have shown that they can't win close games, nor can they defend the pass (23rd in passing defense). It's going to be tough sledding, but hopefully Jeremy Chinn can continue his torrid pace and run his way into DROY.
25. Eagles +3 4-8-1 Jalen Hurts delivered the spark the Eagles needed to upset the Saints and spread 'quarterback controversy' all over the city of brotherly love. While the season remains a disappointment, the dual running threat of Hurts and Sanders could be interesting to watch going forward, and the NFC Least remains wide-open with 2 divisional games left on the 2020 menu.
26. Lions -1 5-8 Even with a loss, Interim HC Darrell Bevell showed that his Lions are here to compete. This game was never out of hands, and the Lions kept it close the entire time. There are still plenty of woes on Defense, but the Offense continued to ball out as expected. With two TD's coming from the run game (Swift and Kerryon), there is already something to look forward to next year. Lately the team has been able to trust the run on short yardage and redzone carries and it has helped the team with consistency in the red zone. Unfortunately, Aaron Rodgers is a QB that can carve up a weak secondary... so that didn't go great. There's around a 1% chance of the Lions getting a playoff spot, not unheard of, but it'll be tough if Stafford's injury progresses and we lose him for the season. #DefendTheDen
27. Chargers -- 4-9 First of all, props to Falcons Twitter for this gem before the game, and it played out exactly as expected. Both teams did their best to try giving it away at the end, but the Chargers ended up on the winning side this time around. The Chargers had their hiccups again but there were improvements across the board; Justin Herbert's 81.8% completion percentage is his highest of the season, the defense came away with 3 INTs, and special teams probably had their best day. The Chargers get a short week before a Thursday Night tilt in Las Vegas.
28. Texans -4 4-9 The Texans are lucky that Paxton is the Texas AG, otherwise they would have had the biggest blowout loss in the state this past week.
29. Cowboys -- 4-9 The Red Rifle won his revenge game, the defense forced multiple turnovers, and the Bengals were held to 3.4 yards per carry. All that, and the Cowboys still come out of the week with a top 5 draft pick. Honestly, Sunday couldn't have gone better. Now, the only question is whether this was the team turning the corner and the beginning of a strong finish to the season, or this was just a perfect moment of the Cowboys finding a shittier team with serious injuries issues and just doing what should happen in that scenario.
30. Bengals -- 2-10-1 Giovani Bernard hadn't fumbled since 2013 before his 1st quarter fumble on Sunday. So what does he get for his troubles? A spot on the bench thanks to Zac Taylor. Giovani was one of the only veterans who spoke out in behalf of Taylor and the current coaches when multiple articles were released with "sources" saying that Taylor had lost the locker room last month. You have to question the benching for multiple reasons as the directionless Bengals continue to flounder to blowout losses. Just another reason why this should be Zac Taylor's last season as head coach in Cincinnati.
31. Jaguars -- 1-12 This one felt more as expected. Perhaps it was in former GM Dave Caldwell's plans— no, wait, hear me out. Adjusting tinfoil hat; Based on the moves taken this offseason to seemingly dump talent from the Jaguars in attempt to amass more draft picks, perhaps the former front office of the Jaguars were banking on this season not being played, due to pandemic reasons. Sure, this may sound farfetched, but I'd like to hear a more reasonable explanation for fielding such a disaster as this team, this season.
32. Jets -- 0-13 The Jets have now scored on 7 consecutive opening drives, the longest streak in the NFL. After climbing to an early 3-0 lead, I watched Peter Sawkins make an excellent cranachan custard slice on The Great British Bake Off.
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Capital One Orange Bowl Match-up Preview Thread: #17 North Carolina Tar Heels vs. #6 Texas A&M Aggies

#17 North Carolina vs. #6 Texas A&M
When: Saturday, January, 2, 08:00 PM Eastern
Where: Hard Rock Stadium - Miami Gardens, FL
Watch: ESPN
Odds: Texas A&M by 7.5 pts.
Total Points: 65.5
All-Time Series : North Carolina vs. Texas A&M
According to Winsipedia these teams have never met.
Through Week 16
Week North Carolina 8-3(7-2) Result Texas A&M 8-1(8-1) Result
1 BYE N/A BYE N/A
2 Syracuse 1-10(1-8) W 31-6 BYE N/A
3 BYE N/A BYE N/A
4 BYE N/A Vanderbilt 0-9(0-9) W 17-12
5 Boston College 6-5(5-4) W 26-22 Alabama#1 11-0(11-0) L 24-52
6 Virginia Tech 5-6(5-5) W 56-45 Florida#11 8-3(8-3) W 41-38
7 Florida State 3-6(2-5) L 28-31 Mississippi State 3-7(3-7) W 28-14
8 NC State#25 8-3(7-3) W 48-21 BYE N/A
9 Virginia 5-5(4-5) L 41-44 Arkansas 3-7(3-7) W 42-31
10 Duke 2-9(1-8) W 56-24 South Carolina 2-8(2-8) W 48-3
11 Wake Forest 4-4(3-4) W 59-53 BYE N/A
12 BYE N/A BYE N/A
13 Notre Dame#2 10-1(0-0) L 17-31 LSU 5-5(5-5) W 20-7
14 Western Carolina 0-3(0-0) W 49-9 Auburn 6-4(6-4) W 31-20
15 Miami#20 8-2(7-2) W 62-26 BYE N/A
16 BYE N/A Tennessee 3-7(3-7) W 34-13
All rankings reflect the current /cfb poll
North Carolina Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-30 20:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Bryce Watts DB Out For Season – Personal Tue, Aug 25 Watts has informed the program that he will not take part in the 2020 season due to a personal reason.
Triston Miller OL Out For Season – Personal Tue, Aug 25 Miller has ruled himself out of the entire 2020 campaign after letting the program aware of his reasons.
Javon Terry DB Out For Season – Personal Tue, Aug 25 Terry has announced that he will not be a participant in the 2020 season due to a personal decision.
Ethan West LB Out For Season – Upper Body Sat, Oct 10 West will miss the remainder of the 2020 season with an upper-body injury.
Kedrick Bingley Jones DL Out Indefinitely – Lower Body Sun, Oct 11 Bingley-Jones is recovering from surgery to fix a lower-body injury. It is undetermined if he will make his season debut.
Ty Murray OL Out For Season – Undisclosed Wed, Nov 11 Murray sustained an unspecified season-ending injury.
Beau Corrales WR Out For Season – Lower Body Tue, Dec 8 Corrales is out of commission due to a lower-body injury, and has been shut down for the remainder of the season.
Michael Carter RB Out For Season – Personal Mon, Dec 21 Carter has opted out of the remainder of the 2020 season to focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
Dyami Brown WR Out For Season – Personal Mon, Dec 21 Brown will sit out of the remainder of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL Draft.
Javonte Williams RB Out For Season – Personal Sat, Dec 26 Williams has opted out of the rest of the season to focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
D.J. Jones RB Out Sat – Lower Body Sun, Dec 27 Jones will not be available for the Orange Bowl versus Texas A&M due to a lower-body injury.
Obi Egbuna DB Ques Sat – Undisclosed Mon, Dec 28 Egbuna is hindered by an unknown ailment, and it is unclear if he will take the field against Texas A&M in the Orange Bowl.
Storm Duck DB Ques Sat – Lower Body Mon, Dec 28 Duck is tending to a lower-body, and it remains to be seen if he will partake in the Orange Bowl versus Texas A&M.
Chazz Surratt LB Out For Season – Personal Mon, Dec 21 Surratt has opted to sit out the 2020 postseason as he prepares for the NFL Draft.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
Texas A&M Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-30 20:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Blake Smith TE Out For Season – Knee Thu, Sep 10 Smith suffered a season-ending knee injury.
Baylor Cupp TE Out For Season – Shoulder Thu, Sep 10 Cupp had surgery to repair a dislocated shoulder, signalling the end of his season.
Grayson Reed OL Out For Season – Leg Tue, Oct 6 Reed is projected to miss the remainder of the season due to a leg injury.
Caleb Chapman WR Out For Season – Lower Body Mon, Oct 12 Chapman is likely to miss the remainder of the season due to a knee injury.
Micheal Clemons DL Out Indefinitely – Ankle Tue, Nov 10 Clemons will miss an undetermined length of time after undergoing ankle surgery.
Myles Jones DB Ques Sat – Foot Sun, Dec 27 Jones is dealing with a foot injury, and his status for the Orange Bowl versus North Carolina is unknown.
Devin Morris DB Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sun, Dec 27 Morris is battling an unspecified injury, and it is unknown if he will line up against North Carolina in the Orange Bowl.
Dylan Wright WR Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sun, Dec 27 Wright is hampered by an unspecified injury, and it is unclear if he will play in the Orange Bowl against North Carolina.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
What are your "Keys to the Game"?
Who do you think wins?
Do you think the favorite will cover the spread?
Which player(s) are you most interested to watch?
Let's talk football!
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Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic Match-up Preview Thread: #12 Oklahoma Sooners vs. #11 Florida Gators

#12 Oklahoma vs. #11 Florida
When: Wednesday, December, 30, 08:00 PM Eastern
Where: AT&T Stadium - Arlington, TX
Watch: ESPN
Odds: Oklahoma by 7.0 pts.
Total Points: 64.5
All-Time Series : Oklahoma vs. Florida
Oklahoma and Florida have met 1 time since 01/08/2009.
These teams last met 4,374 days (~12 years) ago on 01/08/2009.
Series Wins: Oklahoma 0-0-1 Florida
Longest streak of continuous meetings: 1 (2008-2008).
Florida has won the most recent meeting (2008) in this series.
Last 1 Meetings
Winner Date Location Oklahoma Florida Notes
Florida 2009-01-08 Miami Gardens, FL 14 24 BCS Championship Game
Series Comparison Data via Winsipedia
Through Week 16
Week Oklahoma 8-2(7-2) Result Florida 8-3(8-3) Result
1 BYE N/A BYE N/A
2 Missouri State 0-3(0-0) W 48-0 BYE N/A
3 BYE N/A BYE N/A
4 Kansas State 4-6(4-5) L 35-38 Ole Miss 4-5(4-5) W 51-35
5 Iowa State#9 8-3(8-2) L 30-37 South Carolina 2-8(2-8) W 38-24
6 Texas#23 6-3(5-3) W 53-45 Texas A&M#6 8-1(8-1) L 38-41
7 BYE N/A BYE N/A
8 TCU 6-4(5-4) W 33-14 BYE N/A
9 Texas Tech 4-6(3-6) W 62-28 Missouri 5-5(5-5) W 41-17
10 Kansas 0-9(0-8) W 62-9 Georgia#10 7-2(7-2) W 44-28
11 BYE N/A Arkansas 3-7(3-7) W 63-35
12 Oklahoma State 7-3(6-3) W 41-13 Vanderbilt 0-9(0-9) W 38-17
13 BYE N/A Kentucky 4-6(4-6) W 34-10
14 Baylor 2-7(2-7) W 27-14 Tennessee 3-7(3-7) W 31-19
15 BYE N/A LSU 5-5(5-5) L 34-37
16 Iowa State#9 8-3(8-2) W 27-21 Alabama#1 11-0(11-0) L 46-52
All rankings reflect the current /cfb poll
Oklahoma Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-30 10:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Austin Stogner TE Out Indefinitely – Leg Fri, Dec 4 Stogner is out of commission with a leg injury, and he will miss an undetermined length of time.
Jadon Haselwood WR Out Wed – Undisclosed Tue, Dec 29 Haselwood is dealing with an unspecified ailment and will not suit up against Florida in the Cotton Bowl.
Justin Broiles S Ques Wed – Lower Body Sat, Dec 26 Broiles is dealing with a lower-body injury, leaving his status for the Cotton Bowl versus Florida hazy.
Tre Brown CB Out For Season – Personal Tue, Dec 22 Brown has opted out of the remainder of the 2020 season to focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
Kendall Dennis CB Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 22 Dennis has been sideliend with an undetermined injury, and his status moving forward is up in the air.
Greydon Williams WR Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 7 Williams has been sidelined with an unspecified injury, and it is unknown when he will play again.
Obi Obialo WR Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 22 Obialo has been sidelined with an unspecified ailment, and it is unclear when he will line up next.
Caleb Kelly LB Out Indefinitely – Knee Tue, Aug 25 Kelly sustained a knee injury that will keep him out of the lineup for an unknown length of time.
Finley Felix OL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 22 Felix has been sitting out due to an unspecified ailment, and it is unknown when he will suit up next.
Justin Harrington DB Out For Season – Knee Thu, Aug 27 Harrington tore his ACL, signaling that he will miss the entire season.
Marcus Hicks DL Out Indefinitely – Achilles Thu, Aug 27 Hicks is sidelined after undergoing surgery to fix a left Achilles injury, and the severity of the ailment is unknown.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
Florida Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-30 10:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Hayden Knighton OL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Dec 20 Knighton has been out due to an undeclared reason, and his availability is unknown moving forward.
Jacob Copeland WR Out Wed – Illness Mon, Dec 28 Copeland has tested positive for COVID-19 and will not be available for the Cotton Bowl versus Oklahoma.
Marco Wilson DB Out For Season – Personal Mon, Dec 28 Wilson has decided to opt out of the remainder of the 2020 season to focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
Kadarius Toney WR Out For Season – Personal Mon, Dec 28 Toney has made a personal decision to sit out of the remainder of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL Draft.
Trevon Grimes WR Out For Season – Personal Mon, Dec 28 Grimes has opted out of the remainder of the 2020 season to focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
Rashad Torrence DB Ques Wed – Undisclosed Sat, Dec 26 Torrence is tending to an unspecified injury, and it is uncertain if he will be available against Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl.
Kyle Pitts TE Out For Season – Personal Sun, Dec 20 Pitts has opted out of the remainder of the 2020 season to focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
Kamar Wilcoxson DB Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Dec 20 Wilcoxson has been sidelined due to an undeclared ailment, and it is unknown if he will line up going forward.
Lucas Alonzo DL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Alonzo has been absent from the lineup due to an unknown ailment, and it is unclear when he will return to the field.
Jeremiah Moon LB Out Indefinitely – Foot Sun, Dec 13 Moon has been on the sidelines due to a foot injury, and it is unknown when he will return to the fold.
Jaelin Humphries DL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Dec 13 Humphries has been absent from the lineup with an injury to an unlisted location, and it is undetermined when he will return to action.
Kevin Johnson UT Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Johnson has been sidelined due to an unspecified ailment. It has yet to be determined when he will return.
Ethan Pouncey DB Out Indefinitely – Hip Thu, Sep 24 Pouncey will miss an extended period due to hip surgery.
Lamar Goods DL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Goods has been sidelined due to an injury to an unlisted area. It has yet to be established when he will next be available.
Joshua Tse UT Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Tse has been sidelined due to an unspecified ailment, and it is undetermined when he will return to the lineup.
Quincy Lenton DB Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Lenton has been inactive due to an injury to an unlisted area, and it is unknown when he will next become available.
Kahleil Jackson UT Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Dec 20 Jackson has been sidelined due to an unknown ailment, and it remains to be seen if he will step on the field moving forward.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
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[NFL] 2020 the year of plague and woes, and how the NFL murdered the Denver Broncos and saved the Ravens

Background

The NFL is the professional organization for gridiron football in the United States, and one of the largest sporting organizations on the planet. Boasting a yearly revenue of over $16 billion... you know, lets pause and put that in perspective. Video games - the entire idea of electronic games you play, whether on your phone, computer, or dedicated console - have a yearly revenue of $44 billion. That means the NFL makes about 40% of what video games - the entire fucking industry - does worldwide.
It is also deliciously petty. 31 of the 32 teams are owned by rich individuals who did not make their money through football. That means they're essentially owned by super rich fans who are not used to anyone telling them no. These owner superfans can fire people, demand trades, etc. And do. Imagine if you picked your industry, and had it run by a bunch of outsiders who knew very little about it, but had vast amounts of money and bad tempers. Oh and unlike European football with relegations, there's nothing to remove a team or force them to be competitive, meaning people making bad decisions can just keep making the bad decisions.
The result is you could probably make a subreddit just called "Gridiron football drama" and it'd be populated as fuck. Therefore I won't go into the minor things - the players who robbed a bunch of people but then bribed their way out of charges, the dogfighting, the guy who shot himself in the leg, that's just standard petty shit. Coaches fired after good seasons because the owner doesn't like them, total idiots left on for years, good ol' boys who never seem to quite depart the NFL despite no one having an idea what they're good at, the ongoing disaster of analytics (the idea of applying mathematics to a sport run by overgrown infants), no, no, that's for another time.
A good time. I'll probably do one or two more of these.

COVID and the League

The NFL makes $16 billion. COVID kills people. $16 billion vs. dead people. Hmmm. Dead people. $16 billion.
So we're having a football season this year. It's almost guaranteed to kill at least some people who are either involved or involved in outbreaks caused by it, but hey, life goes on. Or doesn't.
The NFL pays lip service to preventing the spread, which is the start of our delicious drama.

COVID Protocols - the answer

The NFL has instituted COVID protocols. These are insane. For instance, people on the sidelines have to wear a mask. Athletes don't, because you can't breath through a mask while pushing your body to its limits. They explored face shields, but nah.
So you have two guys who are literally laying next to each other on the ground panting for breath after tackling (this sport isn't at all gay). They are breathing heavily, inches from each other. But say those exact same players who have been breathing in each other's faces for hours celebrate winning in the locker room? That sounds like half a million in fines. Pay up!
There's no real describing how insane this is. The raiders coach doesn't like his mask so he's declared war on the NFL. The Patriots, Steelers, 49ers, Raiders, and more have been fined.
The masks have also looked sillier and sillier. This man is considered a football genius. No, he hasn't taken one too many shots to the head or something, he's just incapable of wearing a mask normally. God knows why. Coaches regularly pull them down to talk to people, thus defeating the entire point, etc. See? He wears a mask when he doesn't need to be close to people or talk to them he only pulls it down for short periods of time when he's close and talking. I don't see the problem here.
Half the organizations fined are appealing, and accusations of bias have flown back and forth. Angriest are the Saints, who are PISSED about being fined half a million dollars for having a celebration in their own locker room after a win after they passed a COVID test right before the game.
Does any of this make sense? Nope!
There's some more sensible protocols too. For instance new players have to test negative, then sit out in isolation for six days while the teams wait for them to make sure they don't have COVID, test negative again, then they can join the team. Of course isolation isn't that isolating, but that's a whole other matter. So overall, mixed bag for protocols.

Fake fan noise

Okay, so most games can't be attended by fans (not Dallas, Dallas said fuck it get sick and die) but crowd noise is a big part of football. Crowds cheer their team. So they pipe in fake crowd noise.
This is a little creepy but not too bad. So where's the drama? Well, lets turn to Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love. Their QB, Carson Wentz, has been having a bit of a down year. So to show him love, they piped in fake boos. At a home game. This is kinda how Philly fans roll, but needless to say this move drew some controversy.

Baltimore Ravens COVID

The Baltimore Ravens were supposed to play a game on Thanksgiving, but their QB might have COVID. Fortunately the NFL was understanding. A QB is the most important position on the field, and without Lamar Jackson, there's no way the Ravens could be expected to play. So the game has been delayed as they work the situation out. So far, so good.

Denver Broncos

Okay, so that brings us to the Denver Broncos. See, anyone who has COVID has to be quarantined, as does anyone who might have it. Even if they test negative for a long while.
So the Denver Broncos backup QB has COVID. And they had a long meeting with their QB and their other backup QB. And their other backup. In a room with no masks. They're all put on COVID watch list, meaning they can't play.
So the Denver broncos have four quarterbacks, and none can play. The Ravens have just had a game delayed. The Broncos get told... game on.
Okay, they look around for QBs they can get on short notice. But remember in the protocol section where they have to have new players wait six days? Oh. They don't have six days.
In desperation they ask the NFL if they can at least play their assistant coach. He can throw footballs, and knows the playbook. Nope! Not signed as a player, has to sit for six days. "But he's been practicing with the team!" the Broncos tell the NFL. The NFL decides to beat the dead horse some more, and denies them.
Thus the Denver Broncos try to figure out who on their team can throw a football. The answer was their practice squad wide receiver Kendell Hinton. Here's him throwing passes in training camp.
Uh yeah, he catches passes. Not throws them. And has never played a game. And last threw a pass in a game in 2016, in college. And works as a salesman part time.
Is this a total middle finger to the NFL from the Broncos, or just the only person they had? I don't know, but it's ugly.

The game.

So the Kendall Hinton completed 1 of 9 passes. These are the highlights. 1 for 9, 13 yards, 2 interceptions. The Broncos got drubbed by the Saints, obviously, although NO was pretty gentle with Hinton overall. There's a lot of "welcome to the NFL" defense strategies you can use against a new QB like blitz zero - basically an all-out blitz - that will generally crush them until they get used to it. NO kindly used none of that, playing pretty standard.
Of course Hinton couldn't beat pretty standard, because Hinton is a receiver who isn't good enough to make the main squad. It's not all bad for him. The Denver Broncos gave him a shoutout on their Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/Broncos/status/1333195716831838208
They reportedly gave him an ovation in the locker room, and gave him a the game ball. Multiple players have said they respect him, and they should. They weren't throwing the ball, and they probably would have looked just as bad. Gridiron football positions are not interchangeable, and QB is the hardest to step in to.
Fortunately Hinton seemed happy postgame interview, but damn.

Fallout

Broncos fans are furious the Ravens sat while their team was forced to play. Even ESPN has called this game "unprecedented in the modern era of football." There's a bunch of wagon circling back and forth.
Mike Klis a team reporter who covers them has reported that the Broncos other QBs tested negative before and after the game, meaning they could have played. Had they delayed the game they CERTAINLY could have played. So why did the NFL punish the Broncos and not the Ravens? Why show one team favoritism and guarantee the other a loss?
A big controversy is the NFL seems to be pushing "name brand" QBs. Lamar Jackson, QB of the Ravens, is one of those name QBs, and the NFL is pushing him hard as one of the faces of their game. Drew Lock, the Broncos QB, is not.
So this is adding fuel to that fire. Fans are convinced that people like Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, and Lamar Jackson are getting more protection from the NFL - refs are calling fouls if anyone touches them, they're rearranging schedules to highlight them, etc. These people most certainly increase NFL revenue, and the NFL pushes them hard.
On the other side, many outfits are talking how the Broncos broke the rules, and how the punishment was not unwarranted. Are these connected to the NFL? Maybe. Sports media is a bit incestuous. They can't just go report on some other organization if the NFL bans them or does mean things to them.
So this has drawn battle lines, and lead to a grand controversy that's still developing.
Was this interesting? Anyone interested in a writeup of the collapse of the Chicago Bears in 2020, the Antonio Brown saga (in three part harmony), or the 60 year history of mismanagement and ineptitude that is the Detroit Lions? Do you like reading about Gridiron football?
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Cheez-It Bowl Match-up Preview Thread: #20 Miami Hurricanes vs. Oklahoma State Cowboys

#20 Miami vs. Oklahoma State
When: Tuesday, December, 29, 05:30 PM Eastern
Where: Camping World Stadium - Orlando, FL
Watch: ESPN
Odds: Oklahoma State by 1.0 pts.
Total Points: 62.0
All-Time Series : Miami vs. Oklahoma State
Miami and Oklahoma State have met 1 time since 10/05/1991.
These teams last met 10,678 days (~29 years) ago on 10/05/1991.
Series Wins: Miami 1-0-0 Oklahoma State
Longest streak of continuous meetings: 1 (1991-1991).
Miami has won the most recent meeting (1991) in this series.
Last 1 Meetings
Winner Date Location Miami Oklahoma State Notes
Miami 1991-10-05 Miami, FL 40 3
Series Comparison Data via Winsipedia
Through Week 16
Week Miami 8-2(7-2) Result Oklahoma State 7-3(6-3) Result
1 BYE N/A BYE N/A
2 UAB 6-3(4-1) W 31-14 BYE N/A
3 Louisville 4-7(3-6) W 47-34 Tulsa#19 6-2(6-1) W 16-7
4 Florida State 3-6(2-5) W 52-10 West Virginia 5-4(4-4) W 27-13
5 BYE N/A Kansas 0-9(0-8) W 47-7
6 Clemson#3 10-1(8-0) L 17-42 BYE N/A
7 Pittsburgh 6-5(5-4) W 31-19 BYE N/A
8 Virginia 5-5(4-5) W 19-14 Iowa State#9 8-3(8-2) W 24-21
9 BYE N/A Texas#23 6-3(5-3) L 34-41
10 NC State#25 8-3(7-3) W 44-41 Kansas State 4-6(4-5) W 20-18
11 Virginia Tech 5-6(5-5) W 25-24 BYE N/A
12 BYE N/A Oklahoma#12 8-2(7-2) L 13-41
13 BYE N/A Texas Tech 4-6(3-6) W 50-44
14 Duke 2-9(1-8) W 48-0 TCU 6-4(5-4) L 22-29
15 North Carolina#17 8-3(7-2) L 26-62 Baylor 2-7(2-7) W 42-3
16 BYE N/A BYE N/A
All rankings reflect the current /cfb poll
Miami Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-29 12:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Navaughn Donaldson OL Out For Season – Redshirt Tue, Aug 25 Donaldson has elected to use the 2020 season as a redshirt year due to a personal reason.
Avantae Williams S Out For Season – Undisclosed Tue, Aug 25 Williams sustained an unspecified medical condition, ending his season.
Issiah Walker Jr. OL Out Indefinitely – Eligibility Fri, Nov 6 Walker Jr. is out of action due to an unspecified reason, and there is no timetable for return.
Al Blades Jr. CB Out For Season – Heart Tue, Dec 8 Blades Jr. has been diagnosed with myocarditis, and will not play again this season.
Jaylan Knighton RB Out For Season – Shoulder Sat, Dec 12 Knighton will miss the remainder of the 2020 season with a shoulder injury.
Jared Harrison Hunte DL Ques Tues – Illness Sat, Dec 26 Harrison-Hunte is idle due to COVID-19 issues, and it remains to be seen if he will be available against Oklahoma State in the Cheez-It Bowl.
Larry Hodges TE Ques Tues – Illness Sat, Dec 26 Hodges is going through the COVID-19 protocol, and it is undetermined if he will partake in the Cheez-It Bowl versus Oklahoma State.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
Oklahoma State Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-29 12:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Alex Hale K Ques Tues – Undisclosed Sat, Dec 26 Hale is tending to an unspecified injury, and it is unclear if he will be a participant in the Cheez-It Bowl against Miami.
Shane Illingworth QB Ques Tues – Illness Sat, Dec 26 Illingworth is idle after testing positive for COVID-19. It is unknown if he will be cleared to return for the Cheez-It Bowl versus Miami.
Teven Jenkins OL Ques Tues – Undisclosed Sat, Dec 26 Jenkins is hindered by an unannounced injury, and his availability for the Cheez-It Bowl versus Miami is up in the air.
Tylan Wallace WR Ques Tues – Knee Sat, Dec 26 Wallace is dealing with a knee injury, and it is unknown if he will be in the lineup against Miami in the Cheez-It Bowl.
Chuba Hubbard RB Out For Season – Ankle Sat, Dec 12 Hubbard has informed the program that he will sit out the remainder of the season due prepare for the upcoming NFL Draft.
Tyren Irby DE Out Indefinitely – Leg Sat, Dec 5 Irby has been sitting out with a leg injury, and it is unknown when he will return to the field.
Collin Clay DT Out For Season – Eligibility Tue, Aug 25 Clay has been deemed ineligible by the NCAA for the 2020 season.
Ld Brown RB Ques Tues – Undisclosed Sat, Dec 26 Brown has an unannounced injury, and it is unknown if he will be active in the Cheez-It Bowl versus Miami.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
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The rise and fall of Earl Thomas: A Hall of Fame career interrupted - ESPN+ Exclusive

Earl Thomas wanted to show an old friend how far he had come.
It was 2013, and a then-24-year-old Thomas patrolled the Seattle Seahawks' Legion of Boom secondary. The franchise was just weeks from its first Super Bowl championship, and Thomas had flown his high school coach, Texas state Hall of Famer Dan Hooks, and his wife to see the Seahawks' regular-season finale against the St. Louis Rams.
After the Seahawks breezed past the Rams, Hooks found himself at Thomas' house for dinner, surrounded by luxury. He overlooked lake waters as Nina Thomas, Earl's future wife, prepared a tender steak. After dinner, Thomas walked Hooks to his garage to check out the Lamborghini Murcielago. Hooks can't remember if the car was blue or white, but he definitely remembers the scissor doors and hand-stitched leather seats, a rare glimpse into a player he always considered a bit of an introvert.
Thomas stressed he never drove it through rain or mud.
Seven years later, Hooks wonders how Thomas -- a once-proud playmaker now unemployed after a rocky season with the Baltimore Ravens and well-publicized problems off the field -- is navigating those same conditions in his life.
"I was really surprised when he got off track like that," said Hooks, who coached Thomas at Orange-Stark High School. "As time went on, the image he represented became a little different. I don't know what happened. But he's a great kid and I wish him success."
After nearly $90 million in career earnings, seven Pro Bowls and three All-Pro selections, Thomas has played deep safety on a likely route to the Hall of Fame. But a series of bizarre events on and off the field late in his career have raised questions about a legacy coming apart at the seams, including:
He ended his Seattle career by flashing a middle finger at Pete Carroll on Sept. 30, 2018, after a leg injury and an acrimonious contract dispute.
He ended his Baltimore career with a punch, with teammates fed up with his act well before he fought safety Chuck Clark during a training camp practice on Aug. 21, 2020. Two days later, the Ravens cut him for conduct detrimental to the team.
In between, a well-publicized issue with his wife, Nina -- who was arrested April 13, 2020, for allegedly pointing a gun at Thomas over cheating suspicions, according to court records -- took the focus off football.
Now, Thomas is 31 and hopeful for one last chance to anchor a secondary. All season, the free agent has worked out five to six days per week with Jeremy Hills, a former University of Texas teammate who trains many NFL athletes out of Austin.
"He feels like he has so much more to prove," Hills said. "He'll show up ready whenever he gets the call."
Blake Gideon, a former University of Texas safety who shared the defensive backfield with Thomas, backs up that claim, saying Thomas conveyed in recent text messages that he "understands the position he's in and is eager" to correct it with another chance.
Many former teammates and coaches said the news stories about Thomas, who didn't respond to multiple attempts by ESPN to reach him, don't match the person they know: a quiet but loyal individual who doesn't trust others easily but cares deeply once walls are broken, with a rare football focus that some mistake for iciness.
That last part complicated Thomas' status in multiple locker rooms. His relentless pursuit of greatness could create a gulf that several former teammates didn't want to discuss on the record out of respect for Thomas' career.
As one longtime Seahawk put it, Thomas was "a lot like Kobe" in his competitive drive. Kobe Bryant evolved and was beloved when he retired in 2016. Will Thomas get his goodbye, or has the game said it for him?
Faith and family in Orange, Texas Just about everything a young Thomas did felt ordained.
His interest in music became not just a hobby, but a vessel for an entire church body, playing the drums and organ in the Sunday service band in Orange, Texas.
A quiet boy with a matching tie and vest helped get the congregation at Sixth Street Community Church off their seats. Sixth Street, located in Orange's east side -- which the church's Facebook page calls "devil's territory" because of crime and drugs in the area -- spread joy from a brown-brick building. Thomas' grandfather, Earl V. Thomas Sr., was the founding pastor, and uncle Anthony D. Thomas has taken over.
Raymond Richard, Thomas' teammate at Orange-Stark, said the boys were in church three nights per week, plus weekends. Services were "filled with the Holy Ghost -- shouting and spirits moving," he said, and though Thomas wasn't the animated type, he took pride in helping others celebrate God through music.
"Every instrument, he could play. He was just gifted like that," Richard said. "I think he just learned how to play by being around it."
Growing up in Orange -- nicknamed "Fruit City," sitting on the border of Texas and Louisiana with a population of about 11,000 -- Thomas cut grass with his dad on weekends. Locals knew Thomas as Debbie Thomas' "miracle baby," because doctors told her, a cancer survivor, she couldn't have kids. Instead, "God blessed her with a millionaire," Richard said.
Thomas became arguably Orange's best player since former Dallas Cowboy All-Pro cornerback Kevin Smith in the '80s. Thomas was a hybrid cornerback-running back who hated to come off the field. No tests, on the field or standardized, would stop his ascension.
High school teammate Depauldrick Garrett recalls Thomas' struggling with his SAT scores to qualify for the University of Texas. Before his last attempt at qualifying, Thomas told him on site, "If I pass this score, 'I'm going to the league.'"
"His focus level was just different," Garrett said. "He wanted to make a name for Orange, and he learned the value of hard work from his family."
Early signs of brilliance as a Longhorn In 2008, Gideon earned Texas' starting-safety role alongside Thomas, who for weeks hadn't said more than two words to him. So Gideon approached Thomas after a practice and asked if he had a problem.
"He said, 'Man, to be honest, where I come from, you're a white boy with a buzz cut, so I fill in the blank on what you think about me,'" Gideon recalled Thomas saying. "I told him, 'Hey, bro, that's not me. I grew up in a different part of the state, but I see how you play and how you work hard and I love you for that. I promise you, I want to play next to you and help you get where you want to be.
"From that point, we really trusted one another."
Thomas' hometown is rich in football tradition but familiar with racial tension, which ESPN highlighted in a 2017 feature on Thomas' roots. A 1993 Texas Monthly story highlighted the segregation problems in nearby Vidor. In 2016, a Bridge City High School official issued a public apology after two of its football players posted a meme of a West Orange-Stark player who was Black and a message including the N-word.
Richard believes racism isn't discernibly worse in Orange; it's everywhere.
"You've got a group that's always trying to keep things turned up in every town," said Cornel Thompson, a longtime football coach and West Orange-Stark's athletic director. "In Orange here, the thing that pulls everything together is football."
And the field was never a problem for Thomas, who proved undeniable from the moment he stepped onto the UT campus.
He wasn't afraid to let people know, either. Lamarr Houston, a UT teammate and eight-year NFL veteran with the then-Oakland Raiders and Chicago Bears, remembers Thomas, as a redshirt freshman, declaring in the locker room that he would start the following year.
Houston brushed him off with a, "Yeah, yeah, we'll see."
"We kind of got into it -- he was really serious," Houston said. "He was letting everybody know."
Colt McCoy -- the Texas QB in 2008 -- was struck by how a shy redshirt freshman would play an organ at a local church on Sundays, sometimes missing an involuntary workout as a result, then become a dominant force during nighttime 7-on-7 workouts in the summer. Thomas begged McCoy, who had the keys to the field gates, to continue one-on-one sessions with him covering McCoy's receivers, over and over, until midnight.
"He was going to be the best and nothing was going to get in his way," said McCoy, an 11-year NFL veteran now with the New York Giants.
Thomas backed up that confidence with raw talent, with some teammates calling him "Earl the Squirrel" because of elite quickness that led to 10 interceptions in two seasons.
Will Muschamp, Texas' defensive coordinator from 2008 to 2010, remembers doing double-takes watching practice film because of the extra reps Thomas took, the ground he constantly covered.
Muschamp was cleaning his house during the early months of the pandemic when his youngest son, Whit, came across a picture he drew years back of his favorite Longhorn, Thomas. Muschamp snapped a picture and texted it to Thomas, who replied: "Coach, that's awesome."
"As productive a football player I've ever been around," said Muschamp, a head coach at Florida and South Carolina over the past decade.
Seattle was a perfect fit -- until suddenly it wasn't Man, he had a different burst.
That was the prevailing theme from Seattle coaches after the first practices with Thomas, a first-round pick in 2010. Coaches measured safety speed by how one tracked the "red lines" -- numbers to numbers -- and no one owned the red lines like Thomas did.
New coach Pete Carroll needed a catalyst.
"We started constructing a defense around a middle-field safety, and that's what he was," said Rocky Seto, a longtime Seattle defensive assistant who left the profession a few years ago for Christian ministry. "He had a knack for getting the ball, and his range was phenomenal."
Seattle's personnel staff followed the Thomas pick with a pair of fifth-round selections -- hard-hitting safety Kam Chancellor (2010) and lanky corner Richard Sherman (2011) -- for a defensive foundation to fuel championship runs
Thomas was different in every way, eschewing the role of vocal leader for a get-like-me mentality that some teammates couldn't reach. One Seattle coach recalled Thomas chiding teammates for doing an extra film session because he assumed everyone already did that like him.
The work ethic reached maniacal levels. Multiple people interviewed for this story remember Thomas leaving his daughter's birthday party early to go watch film in another room. Former Seahawks corner DeShawn Shead was there for that moment. He was also there when Thomas angrily confronted defensive linemen for not carrying out assignments with intensity during a walk-through.
Thomas would balance contentious moments with invites for teammates to watch "Thursday Night Football" and play video games at his house.
"We know each other's family -- wives, kids, and on the field, we were there for each other," Shead said of Seattle's secondary.
Thomas' hero was Ed Reed, and Thomas wanted to "surpass Reed and beat him by a mile" in career accomplishments, said Kris Richard, Seattle's former defensive backs coach and defensive coordinator.
Thomas hasn't quite matched Reed's 64 interceptions, but Thomas' 30 is tops among safeties this past decade, with Sherman leading the way among active players, with 35. Chancellor was a generational hitter, and Sherman could erase the top receiver, but Thomas' versatility scared opposing coaches. His freelance moves were calculated, almost always based on film tips. Richard recalls a moment when a young Thomas sniffed out a toss play for Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles, put his foot in the ground and "leveled him out of bounds."
Richard had to manage a position room with three greats, which he admits meant "sparks would fly" with emotion on occasion.
One team source said Thomas had multiple heated confrontations with coaches, though Richard said he doesn't recall that, only a player of few words but much action.
"He wanted to be the greatest safety to ever play," Richard said. "For my entirety coaching him, he was always the glaring example of what to do and how to practice, the epitome of excellence."
That football immersion made him unapproachable at times. If someone isn't helping Thomas connect on the field, a team source said, then "he's an island."
But Seattle was the ideal place for a "keeps to himself" guy such as Thomas, Seto said. Seattle is unapologetically messy when it comes to players; coaches get to know them as people, business be damned, and if that muddles contract negotiations, at least players can't say the team doesn't care. Carroll is skilled at coalescing an amalgam of personalities and embracing differences. Seto had multiple talks with Thomas about the Bible and his relationship with Jesus Christ.
"He came in as a 19-year-old guy, almost out of high school, and we saw him in that way, nurtured him," Seto said. "If there were any quirks, we learned to appreciate that part of him. We all kind of came up together."
By 2018, Thomas was 29 and found himself on that island without two trusted anchors. Chancellor retired because of neck injuries, and Sherman was released after tearing his Achilles tendon. Both played roles in corralling Thomas when he appeared distant or indifferent.
Without them, Thomas appeared increasingly irritated to be in Seattle. Public demands for an extension or a trade before the 2018 season were unsuccessful, and as trainers carted Thomas off the field in Arizona in Week 4 -- with his lower left leg fractured, and his middle finger pointed to the Glendale sky -- one Seahawks source described the moment as "numbing," a finality to a relationship that felt over much earlier. People from Orange considered the gesture uncharacteristic of the church-organ-playing football player they knew.
Sherman declined to comment for this story through the 49ers, adding that he would talk only if Thomas talks; efforts to reach Chancellor were unsuccessful. The Seahawks did not make Carroll and general manager John Schneider available for this story.
"They were pillars who knew they could lean on each other," said Richard of Thomas and the Legion of Boom. "When you remove those pillars from his life, that affects you."
From Orange, Hooks sensed Thomas' desire to return home fueled unhappiness in Seattle.
"He wanted to go to Dallas, and when that didn't happen, maybe that changed things for him," Hooks said.
Why it didn't work with the Ravens The Baltimore Ravens are among the league's best at finding bargain contracts and developing draft picks into tough-minded players, which only fueled curiosity when then-new general manager Eric DeCosta gave Thomas a four-year, $55 million contract with $32 million in guarantees in March 2019.
Thomas, two months from age 30 at the time, was believed to have a one-year deal on the table from Kansas City, but his market wasn't exactly booming. The Ravens had moved on from Eric Weddle and, without a viable replacement in the system, figured Thomas' pedigree and range could strengthen the secondary against the Odell Beckhams of the AFC North.
The signing felt rushed -- and proved unsettling nearly as fast.
Within the first month of game action, Thomas initiated a heated argument with Brandon Williams over the defensive tackle's availability against the Cleveland Browns. Thomas' unreliability became a broader issue, as ESPN's Jamison Hensley reported, once he didn't show up for meetings following the bye after a Week 7 matchup with the Seahawks.
According to a report in The Athletic, Thomas took a private jet to Las Vegas straight from the game in Seattle instead of returning to Baltimore with the Ravens. Thomas was fined repeatedly for his indifference to game prep.
"It's one of the all-time mysteries why he didn't work in here, because it seemed on paper like he'd be the perfect Raven," said a team source. "This is a good locker room, but it didn't fit from the beginning."
Peak Thomas no longer showed on the game film from the 2019 season, but he still produced 47 tackles, two sacks, a forced fumble and two interceptions.
The team's handling of the fight with Clark in 2020 showed just how many strikes Thomas had used up. Thomas was gone within two days of punching Clark during a Friday training camp practice over a blown coverage, with the team essentially paying out $22 million for one season of work.
Coach John Harbaugh consulted prominent Ravens, who believed it was time to cut ties. After Thomas' release, the team declined to provide specifics publicly and privately, eager to move on despite owing him $10 million in guarantees in 2021, which is currently being sorted out by an NFLPA grievance.
Without making excuses for Thomas, several former Seahawks acknowledge that leaving Seattle's locker room is an adjustment for veterans. Several former and current Seahawks brought this up when discussing Thomas' problems. It's not that players can't be successful elsewhere -- Sherman became an All-Pro with San Francisco -- it's that they can take the culture for granted.
Outside linebacker Bruce Irvin has been vocal about this. He left Seattle in 2016 free agency and, after 30 sacks in five seasons elsewhere, he returned to the Seahawks because he missed the nuances -- how the team traveled, practiced and took care of older players.
"Seattle has energy, a positive environment, and they tailor a lot of their defense and offense to the players," Shead said. "It can be very different compared to the rest of the league. For some, when you got to other teams, it just gets to them."
Thomas' football career started to spiral as his personal life suffered in the public eye.
The Ravens were shocked by the April 13 incident in Austin, which resulted in Nina Thomas' arrest for first-degree felony burglary of a residence with intent to commit aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
The details alleged in Travis County magistrate court records were jarring:
After finding Earl Thomas and his brother, Seth, in separate bedrooms of a rental home with separate women, Nina placed Earl's 9mm Beretta less than a foot away from her husband's head, with the safety disengaged and her finger on the trigger, all of which an officer viewed on cellphone video footage. Nina, accompanied by two women to help confront Thomas, told police she intended to scare Thomas but was unaware of a round in the chamber. Earl, who was not arrested, tussled for the gun, but police showed up at 3:41 a.m. with Nina allegedly chasing Earl with a knife. Thomas posted a since-deleted video urging people to pray instead of gossip, as "stuff like this happens."
Jonathan Goins, Nina's lawyer, told ESPN that Nina and Earl -- high school sweethearts who married in 2016 and have three children -- are reconciling.
"They are working on their marriage and doing what they have to do to make sure their three children are growing up in the best environment possible," Goins said.
Goins said he is expecting a dismissal of the case, which is currently being handled by the district attorney's office. He is working closely with Carl A. Moore, Earl Thomas' attorney, and Thomas has fully cooperated in the process.
Will Thomas get another chance? As a concerned friend, Gideon has sent encouraging texts to Thomas in recent months. He figured Thomas felt like the world was coming down on him, so he simply let him know he loved him. They had pleasant exchanges that Gideon would prefer to keep private.
"A lot of people were surprised with the issues that came to light because that was never him," Gideon said. "I don't see that as not having a great relationship with teammates in the locker room. The stuff back in Austin with his brother, that wasn't him."
According to Hills, his former teammate and trainer, Thomas has immersed himself in routine, working on his personal life and football craft without any guarantees of his career resuming.
Most days, Thomas wakes up early, jogs a mile to get loose, goes through a traditional weightlifting session (he needs to squat with the barbell across the back -- no body-weight sessions here), then it's on to conditioning and two-man offensive work, Hills said.
Hills classifies Thomas as being in "damn good shape," with speed of the NFL game the only thing they can't truly replicate in workouts. But when Hills can't find Thomas, he usually knows why.
"For the first time in a while, he has more time to be a dad," Hills said. "If he's not with me, he's probably in a bouncy house somewhere."
Family photos comprise much of Thomas' social media fare.
Thomas also has several posts that seem to promote the grand opening of Area 29 in Houston, which, according to the company's Instagram page, is the "hottest new international strip club featuring #1 dancers." Twenty-nine is Thomas' famous jersey number. ESPN left a message for a club official for comment on Thomas' involvement.
The Houston Texans appeared ready to sign Thomas in late September but backed away over concerns from the locker room, according to reporting by CBS Sports.
The Dallas Cowboys desperately needed secondary help yet didn't aggressively pursue Thomas. League sources said they believe the Cowboys once entertained signing Thomas for the league minimum, but those discussions never went very far.
Football can be cruel to aging veterans hoping to gracefully bow out. For every John Elway or Peyton Manning, there are dozens forced into retirement due to declining play.
But that's tough for Thomas, McCoy said, because of what he still can give.
"It's hard for anybody when someone tells you you can't play anymore -- it's even harder if you think you still can," McCoy said. "Hard thing to move on from. With Earl, I don't think that's what's going on. He can still play."
Richard also believes Thomas has "something left in the tank," because instincts and preparation will guide him.
Either way, a legacy awaits him in Orange, where for years he conducted a massive youth football camp. Providing a free camp to 1,000-plus kids was liberating for Thomas, who had to shake his hesitancy to speak publicly as a front-facing figure.
Thomas brought NFL peers to town and treated Orange "like Robin Hood" when it came to generosity for kids and family friends, said Derrick Scott, a former Texas strength coach who helps run the camp, which COVID-19 derailed in 2020.
"I see all this as Earl Thomas growing into the man he's going to be. I really believe he'll prevail," Scott said. "I believe his heart is in the right place. Things happen in life. I've seen his resiliency."
If Thomas doesn't get another NFL down, he has disciples to carry on his tradition -- and fiercely protect his legacy.
Any time Tennessee Titans safety Kenny Vaccaro breaks on a pass, he hopes his technique and angle to the ball would make Thomas proud.
The former UT teammate and friend can't be told any differently: Thomas revolutionized the free safety position because of his sideline-to-sideline range and anticipation.
That's why Thomas' current predicament deeply hurts him.
"Hall of Fame players like him should be able to go out on their own terms," Vaccaro said.
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[Game Preview] Week 12 - Philadelphia Eagles(3-6-1) vs Seattle Seahawks (7-3)

Philadelphia Eagles (3-6-1) vs Seattle Seahawks(7-3)
Another week has passed and the Eagles notched another in the loss column, the saving grace now is after the Football Team won on Thanksgiving the Eagles are no longer kings of shit mountain. That title rests with Washington, though it could end up in the hands of the Giants by the team the Eagles kickoff on Monday night. Pathetically they could take that title back with a win over the Seahawks, though that appears to be unlikely. The Seahawks pack a potent offense led by All-Pro QB Russel Wilson who has made Jim Schwartz is bitch the past 4 years. What this Eagles team has in talent it completely lacks in discipline, heart and accountability which rests entirely on this coaching staff which repeatedly fails to get this team motivated and put them in the best position to win football games. Seattle has one of the worst defenses in the league especially against the pass, however I doubt Doug Pederson will come up with a game plan to exploit it, especially with Carson Wentz struggling to find any rhythm this season and leading the league in all the wrong categories. Both the coach and the QB will need to find some of that magic from the 2017 season if they have any hope of beating this tough Seahawks team Monday night.
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Date
Monday, November 30th, 2020
Game Time Game Location
8:15 PM - Eastern Lincoln Financial Field
7:15 PM - Central 1020 Pattison Ave
6:15 PM - Mountain Philadelphia, PA 19148
5:15 PM - Pacific Wikipedia - Map
Weather Forecast
Stadium Type: Open Air
Surface: Grass
Temperature: 64°F
Feels Like: 64°F
Forecast: Possible Light Rain. Rain throughout the day.
Chance of Precipitation: 56%
Cloud Coverage: 97%
Wind: South 13 MPH
Betting Odds
Oddsshark Information
Favorite/Opening Line: Seattle -5.5
OveUnder: 49
Record VS. Spread: Eagles 3-7, Seahawks 6-4
Where to Watch on TV
ESPN will broadcast Monday’s game to a national audience. Steve Levy will handle play-by-play duties and Brian Griese will provide analysis.
Week 12 TV Map
Radio Streams
List of Eagles Radio network member stations with internet broadcast availability
Radio.com 94.1 Desktop Streaming
Listen to Merrill Reese and Mike Quick
Calling the game on 94WIP and the Eagles Radio Network will be Merrill Reese, the NFL’s longest-tenured play-by-play announcer (44th season). Joining Reese in the radio booth will be former Eagles All-Pro wide receiver Mike Quick, while Howard Eskin will report from the sidelines.
Location Station Frequency
Philadelphia, PA WIP-FM 94.1 FM and 610 AM
Allentown, PA WCTO-FM 96.1 FM
Atlantic City/South Jersey WENJ-FM 97.3 FM
Levittown, PA WBCB-AM 1490 AM
Northumberland, PA WEGH-FM 107.3 FM
Pottsville, PA WPPA-AM 1360 AM
Reading, PA WEEU-AM 830 AM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WAFL-FM 97.7 FM
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA WEJL-FM 96.1 FM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WAFL-FM 97.7 FM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WEJL-AM 630 AM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WBAX-AM 1240 AM
Williamsport, PA WBZD-FM 93.3 FM
Wilmington, DE WDEL-FM/AM 101.7 FM
York/LancasteHarrisburg, PA WSOX-FM 96.1 FM
Philadelphia Spanish Radio
Rickie Ricardo and Bill Kulik will handle the broadcast in Spanish on Mega 105.7 FM in Philadelphia and the Eagles Spanish Radio Network.
Location Station Frequency
Philadelphia, PA LA MEGA 105.7 FM
Allentown, PA WSAN 1470 AM
Atlantic City, NJ WIBG 1020 AM; 101.3 FM
Seahawks Radio
Seahawks Radio Network Steve Raible returns for his 38th season in the radio booth, his 15th as the play-by-play announcer and “Voice of the Seahawks” after 22 seasons as the Seahawks analyst. Former Seahawks LB Dave Wyman will provide color commentary.
National Radio
Westwood One will broadcast the game to a national audience with Kevin Harlan on play-by-play and Ron Jaworski providing analysis.
Satellite Radio
Station Eagles Channel Seahawks Channel
Sirius Radio SIRI 83 SIRI 81
XM Radio XM 225 XM 226
Sirius XM Radio SXM 225 4 SXM 226
Eagles Social Media Seahawks Social Media
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NFC East Standings
NFC EAST Record PCT Home Road Div Conf PF PA Net Pts Streak
Football Team 4-7 .364 3-3 1-4 3-2 3-5 241 243 -2 1W
Eagles 3-6-1 .350 2-2-1 1-4 2-2 3-3 220 254 -34 2L
Giants 3-7 .300 2-3 1-4 3-2 3-6 195 236 -41 2W
Cowboys 3-8 .273 2-4 1-4 1-3 3-6 251 359 -108 1L
Series Information
The Seattle Seahawks lead the Philadelphia Eagles (11-7)
Series History
Head to Head Box Scores
First Game Played
December 12th, 1976 at Veteran's Stadium Philadelphia, PA. Philadelphia Eagles 27 - Seattle Seahawks 10
Points Leader
Seattle Seahawks lead the Philadelphia Eagles (367-327)
Coaches Record
Doug Pederson: 0-4 against the Seahawks
Pete Carroll: 6-1 against Eagles
Coaches Head to Head
Doug Pederson vs Pete Carroll: Carroll leads 4-0
Quarterback Record
Carson Wentz: Against Seahawks: 0-4
Russell Wilson: Against Eagles: 5-0
Quarterbacks Head to Head
Carson Wentz vs Russell Wilson: Wilson leads 4-0
Records per Stadium
Record @ Lincoln Financial Field: Seahawks lead the Eagles: 5-0
Record @ CenturyLink Field: Seahawks lead 3-2
Rankings and Last Meeting Information
AP Pro 32 Ranking
Eagles No. 11 - Seahawks No. 7
Record
Eagles: 3-6-1
Seahawks: 7-3
Last Meeting
Sunday, Nov 24th, 2019
Seahawks 17 – Eagles 9
The Eagles season ended with their first loss at home since Week 12 of the regular season, which was, coincidentally, also a 17–9 home loss to the Seahawks. They failed to score a touchdown for the first time since Week 17 of the 2017 season. Carson Wentz left the game in the first quarter with a concussion following a dirty hit by Jadeveon Clowney, where he led with the crown of his helmet into the back of Carson Wentz’s head when he was already going to the ground. No penalty was called on the play, and Wentz was later ruled out for the game. This was the Eagles' third straight home Wild Card playoff loss.
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Last 10 Meetings
Date Winner Loser Score
01/05/20 Seahawks Eagles 17-9
11/24/19 Seahawks Eagles 17-9
12/3/17 Seahawks Eagles 24-10
11/20/16 Seahawks Eagles 26-15
12/07/14 Seahawks Eagles 24-14
12/01/11 Seahawks Eagles 31-14
11/02/08 Eagles Seahawks 26-7
12/02/07 Seahawks Eagles 28-24
12/05/05 Seahawks Eagles 42-0
12/08/02 Eagles Seahawks 27-20
09/23/01 Eagles Seahawks 27-3
Injury Reports Depth Charts
Eagles Eagles
Seahawks Seahawks
2012 “Expert” Picks
Week 12 - "Expert" Picks
2020 Team Stats
Eagles Season Stats
Seahawks Season Stats
2020 Stats (Starters/Leaders)
Passing
Name CMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT RAT
Wentz 220 377 58.4% 2326 14 14 73.3
Wilson 256 362 70.7% 2986 30 10 111.5
Rushing
Name ATT YDS YDS/G AVG TD
Sanders 102 585 83.6 5.7 3
Wilson 55 367 36.7 4.7 1
Receiving
Name REC YDS YDS/G AVG TD
Fulgham 31 451 64.4 14.5 4
Metcalf 48 862 86.2 18.0 9
Sacks
Name Sacks Team Total
Graham 7.0 34
Adams 5.5 25
Tackles
Name Total Solo Assist Sacks
Singleton 60 37 23 1.0
Wagner 96 56 40 3.0
Interceptions
Name Ints Team Total
Singleton/McLeod/Mills 1 3
Diggs/Neal/Griffin 2 10
Punting
Name ATT YDS LONG AVG NET IN 20 TB BP
Johnston 45 2198 66 48.6 42.3 15 4 0
Dickson 37 1835 67 49.6 44.1 19 4 0
Kicking
Name ATT MADE % LONG PAT
Elliot 14 10 71.4% 54 14/14
Myers 12 12 100% 61 36/38
Kick Returns
Name ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
Scott 12 227 18.9 25 0
Homer 12 291 24.3 44 0
Punt Returns
Name RET YDS AVG LONG TD FC
Ward 13 88 6.8 22 0 13
Moore 8 91 11.4 20 0 12
League Rankings 2020
Offense Rankings
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Seahawks Stat Seahawks Rank
Total Offense 330.1 26th 400.0 4th
Rush Offense 121.1 12th 121.3 10th(t)
Pass Offense 209.0 28th 278.7 5th
Points Per Game 22.0 24th 31.8 2nd
3rd-Down Offense 37.5% 28th(t) 41.2% 18th
4th-Down Offense 36.8% 27th(t) 77.8% 3rd(t)
Red Zone Offense (TD%) 63.3% 13th 77.8% 2nd
Defense Rankings
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Seahawks Stat Seahawks Rank
Total Defence 342.7 10th 434.9 32nd
Rush Defence 133.4 25th 91.2 4th
Pass Defence 209.3 6th 343.7 32nd
Points Per Game 25.4 16th 28.7 28th
3rd-Down Defence 38.1% 6th 49.6% 30th
4th-Down Defence 41.7% 5th(t) 56.3% 18th
Red Zone Defence(TD%) 65.6% T-19th 70.0% 28th
Team
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Seahawks Stat Seahawks Rank
Turnover Diff. -9 30th +1 12th(t)
Penalty Per Game 6.1 21st(t) 5.3 6th(t)
Penalty Yards Per Game 48.2 14th 39.2 4th
Connections
Eagles HC Doug Pederson was born in Bellingham, WA, and grew up in Ferndale, WA. Pederson recently admitted that he "Grew up a Seahawks Fan" and used to attend Seahawks games at The Kingdome.
Eagles LBs coach Ken Flajole is from Seattle and previously coached the Seahawks’ DBs (1999, 2001-02) and LBs (2000).
Eagles Safeties coach Tim Hauck played for the Seahawks in 1997.
Seahawks Northeast Area Scout Todd Brunner worked for the Eagles for four seasons (1994-97) as an area scout covering the Northeast. He joined the Eagles as a scouting intern in 1992 and worked as a scouting assistant in 1993.
2020 Pro Bowlers
Eagles Seahawks
DT Fletcher Cox (Starter) QB Russel Wilson (Starter)
OG Brandon Brooks (Starter) MLB Bobby Wagner (Starter)
TE Zach Ertz
C Jason Kelce (Starter)
LS Rick Lavato (Starter)
General
Referee: Brad Allen
Philadelphia hosts Seattle for the first time since the 2019 NFC Wild Card playoff game. The Eagles are aiming for their third con-secutive win at Lincoln Financial Field after defeating N.Y. Giants (W, 22-21) and Dallas (W, 23-9) during Weeks 7-8.
Miles Sanders leads the NFL with 5.7 yards per rushing attempt (min. 100 attempts). His 83.6 rushing yards per game rank 4th in the NFL, trailing only Dalvin Cook (118.8), Derrick Henry (107.9) and Nick Chubb (95.8) in that category.
Jason Kelce has started 99 consectuive regular-season games, which is the longest active streak among NFL centers as well as the longest by an Eagles center since the 1970 merger (previously 95 by Guy Morriss from 1977-83). The last NFL center with 100 consecutive starts was Chris Myers from 2007-14 (123).
Brandon Graham leads the Eagles defense with 7.0 sacks, which ranks 9th among NFL players. Graham (11 TFLs) joins T.J. Watt (9.0, sacks, 14 TFLs) and Za’Darius Smith (8.0 sacks, 10 TFLs) as the only NFL players with 7.0+ sacks and 10+ TFLs this season.
Draft Picks
Eagles Seahawks
WR Jalen Raegor LB Jordyn Brooks
QB Jalen Hurts DE Darrell Taylor
LB Davion Taylor OG Damien Lewis
S K’Von Wallace TE Colby Parkinson
OT Jack Driscoll RB Deejay Dallas
WR John Hightower DE Alton Robinson
LB Shaun Bradley WR Freddie Swan
WR Quez Watkins TE/WR Stephen Sullivan
OT Prince Tega Wanogho
LB/DE Casey Toohill
Notable Off-season Additions
Eagles Seahawks
S Will Parks S Jamal Adams
DT Javon Hargrave OT Cedric Ogbuehi
CB Nickell Robey-Coleman RB Carlos Hyde
CB Darius Slay RT Brandon Shell
DE Carlos Dunlap
DE Benson Mayowa
WR Phillip Dorsett
DT Bruce Irvin
TE Greg Olsen
CB Quinton Dunbar
Notable Off-season Departures
Eagles Seahawks
S Malcom Jenkins S Bradley McDonald
CB Ronald Darby DE Jadaveon Clowney
RB Jordan Howard OT George Fant
WR Nelson Agholor DL Quiton Jefferson
OL Halapoulivaati Vaitai DL Al Woods
LB Kamu Grugler-Hill OL Germain Ifedi
RB Darren Sproles DE Ziggy Ansah
DT Timmy Jernigan LB Mychal Kendricks
LB Nigel Bradham
Milestones
Eagles QB Carson Wentz (109) needs 1 passing TDs to take sole possession of 4th on the Eagles all-time passing yards list moving ahead of QB Norm Snead.
Eagles DT Fletcher Cox (52.5) needs 2 sacks to move up to 5th on the Eagles all-time sack list tying DE Hugh Douglas
Eagles DE Vinny Curry (29) needs 1 sacks to move up to 18th on the Eagles all-time sack list passing DT Jerome Brown
Stats to Know
Stat to Know: Bird is the Word
The average Bald Eagle's wingspan is considerably more than an Osprey's. The weight disparity between the two is even more pronounced, the male Bald Eagle doubling its counterpart's weight. So whereas Bald Eagles are known to harass Osprey nests and even steal Ospreys' food directly from them, this Philadelphia Eagles team is anything but average and is an embarrassment in the turnover department, currently third-to-last in turnover margin at -9, while the Seahawks are middle-of-the-pack at +1. A Bald Eagle is expected to be large, strong, agile, pesky, and majestic. The 2020 Philadelphia Eagles field 2 Cornerbacks 5'9 and under, they field undersized Linebackers and Safeties, and don't have a bruising Running Back to feature. They have been incapable of imposing their will on Offense or Defense. The only consistency shown in 2020 is in just how bad the team is, while still on top of the division. Some mornings I stare into the foggy mirror, with Lionel Richie's "Hello" playing on my Google speaker, and wonder what we've done to deserve this. Sad Eagles
Matchups to Watch
Russel Wilson vs. the Eagles Run Defense
This Eagles team has been woefully pathetic against the run this season, but even more so against opposing QBs who are not afraid to take off. Of the top 5 rushing performances against the Eagles defense this season 3 of them are QBs (Lamar Jackson and Daniel Jones 2x). Russell Wilson may turn 32 Sunday, but he is still a threat with his legs as he currently leads the Seahawks in rushing yards and is on pace for his second biggest rushing season in his career. Jim Schwartz has had zero answer the past 4 years against Russel Wilson and I don’t expect that to magically change on Monday. Schwartz best bet may be to spy Wilson with Rookie Davion Taylor, who has the athletic ability to keep up with Wilson, however Schwartz has failed to used spies on Wilson in the past, so if he makes a change in how it operates it will be a large evolution in his character which doesn’t seem realistic. I expect much of the same with Schwartz against Wilson on Monday, base Nickel defense with Cover-1 man and the corners playing 10 yards off to give easy outlets to Wilson.
A Moveable Object vs a Stoppable Force
If Philly wants to have any chance to win on Monday they are going to need to score points on the offensive side of the football, something they have failed to do regularly this season. Carson Wentz has been one of if not the worst QB in the NFL this season, at least the worst who hasn’t been benched yet. He has been a turn over machine and has been sacked the most in the NFL. But the offensive woes don’t lay solely at his feet, Doug Pederson has done Wentz no favors. Despite Wentz’s struggles Pederson has continued to lead on the QB, despite having one of the best running backs in the league who is averaging 5.7 yards per carry and has big play potential in Miles Sanders. It isn’t just that Pederson is abandoning the run, he is also calling a bland predictable offense which has failed to put his players in the best position to succeed. On the other side of the ball, the Seahawks have had issues stopping anyone this season, especially through the air where they rank dead last. They have given up an average of 343.7 yards per game. In recent weeks, they’ve been better in this area. They have given up over 300 passing yards just once in the last four games. If the Eagles have any shot to win Sunday, they need to win this matchup.
Carlos Dunlap vs Jordan Mailata
After Jason Peters gave up 3 sacks, 3 QB hits and 7 pressures in just 47 snaps before leaving the last game with an injury, he's thankfully moving to right guard somewhere he should have been after returning from the IR. This means Mailata will be back at LT where he was playing well before being benched for Peters return. He will face off against Carlos Dunlap who has 3 sacks in 3 games since joining the Seahawks. This is going to be the second time the Eagles faced Dunlap who in Week 3, had 4 pressures, 9 tackles, a QB hit, a TFL and a batted pass when facing Peters. If Mailata can play the way he was before he was wrongly benched by this inept coaching staff. Suring up Wentz’s backside should give him a little more confidence, something he has woefully lacked this season. This should be a good matchup against the young Mailata and the ageless vet in Dunlap.
Special thanks to abenyishay for their help in creating this Game Preview.
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Week 14 Match-up Preview Thread: Auburn Tigers vs. #6 Texas A&M Aggies

Auburn vs. #6 Texas A&M
When: Saturday, December, 5, 12:00 PM Eastern
Where: Jordan-Hare Stadium - Auburn, AL
Watch: ESPN
Odds: Texas A&M by 7.0 pts.
Total Points: 49.0
All-Time Series : Auburn vs. Texas A&M
Auburn and Texas A&M have met 10 times since 10/21/1911.
These teams last met 438 days ago on 09/21/2019.
Series Wins: Auburn 5-0-5 Texas A&M
Longest streak of continuous meetings: 8 (2012-2019).
Auburn has won the last 3 meetings (2017-2019) in this series.
Last 6 Meetings
Winner Date Location Auburn Texas A&M Notes
Auburn 2019-09-21 College Station, TX 28 20
Auburn 2018-11-03 Auburn, AL 28 24
Auburn 2017-11-04 College Station, TX 42 27
Texas A&M 2016-09-17 Auburn, AL 16 29
Auburn 2015-11-07 College Station, TX 26 10
Texas A&M 2014-11-08 Auburn, AL 38 41
Series Comparison Data via Winsipedia
Through Week 13
Week Auburn 5-3(5-3) Result Texas A&M 6-1(6-1) Result
1 BYE N/A BYE N/A
2 BYE N/A BYE N/A
3 BYE N/A BYE N/A
4 Kentucky 3-6(3-6) W 29-13 Vanderbilt 0-8(0-8) W 17-12
5 Georgia#12 6-2(6-2) L 6-27 Alabama#1 8-0(8-0) L 24-52
6 Arkansas 3-5(3-5) W 30-28 Florida#7 7-1(7-1) W 41-38
7 South Carolina 2-7(2-7) L 22-30 Mississippi State 2-6(2-6) W 28-14
8 Ole Miss 4-4(4-4) W 35-28 BYE N/A
9 LSU 3-4(3-4) W 48-11 Arkansas 3-5(3-5) W 42-31
10 BYE N/A South Carolina 2-7(2-7) W 48-3
11 BYE N/A BYE N/A
12 Tennessee 2-5(2-5) W 30-17 BYE N/A
13 Alabama#1 8-0(8-0) L 13-42 LSU 3-4(3-4) W 20-7
All rankings reflect the current /cfb poll
Auburn Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-02 12:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Chandler Wooten LB Out For Season – Personal Tue, Aug 25 Wooten has informed the program that he will not take part in the 2020 season due to a personal decision.
Josh Marsh LB Out For Season – Personal Tue, Aug 25 Marsh will sit out the duration of the 2020 campaign due to a personal reason.
Jay Hardy DE Out Indefinitely – Foot Sat, Oct 24 Hardy has been sidelined with a foot ailment, and it is unknown when he will suit up for his season debut.
Daniel Foster Allen DE Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sat, Oct 24 Foster-Allen has been sidelined due to an undetermined injury. It has yet to be established when he will make his first appearance of the season.
Brandon Council OL Out For Season – Knee Mon, Oct 26 Council is sidelined with a knee injury, and he is expected to miss the remainder of the 2020 season.
K.J. Britt LB Early Dec – Thumb Fri, Nov 20 Britt is recovering from surgery to repair torn ligaments in his right thumb, and he is expected to be sidelined until at least the start of December.
D.J. Williams RB Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Williams was lifted from the last game with an undetermined injury, and it is unknown if he will face Texas A&M on Saturday.
Tank Bigsby RB Ques Sat – Hip Sun, Nov 29 Bigbsy is dealing with a sore hip, and it is unknown if it will impede his status for Saturday’s contest against Texas A&M.
Alec Jackson OL Out Sat – Hand Tue, Dec 1 Jackson is recovering from surgery to repair a hand injury and will miss Saturday’s matchup with Texas A&M.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
Texas A&M Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-02 12:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Baylor Cupp TE Out For Season – Shoulder Thu, Sep 10 Cupp had surgery to repair a dislocated shoulder, signalling the end of his season.
Jhamon Ausbon WR Out For Season – Personal Sun, Sep 13 Ausbon has opted-out for the remainder of the season due to a personal decision.
Blake Smith TE Out For Season – Knee Thu, Sep 10 Smith suffered a season-ending knee injury.
Elijah Blades DB Out For Season – Personal Tue, Sep 1 Blades will sit out the duration of the 2020 campaign due to a personal reason.
Caleb Chapman WR Out For Season – Lower Body Mon, Oct 12 Chapman is likely to miss the remainder of the season due to a knee injury.
Micheal Clemons DL Out Indefinitely – Ankle Tue, Nov 10 Clemons will miss an undetermined length of time after undergoing ankle surgery.
Dylan Wright WR Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 29 Wright has missed the last two games with an unspecified injury, and it is unclear if he will play against Auburn on Saturday.
Demond Demas WR Prob Sat – Undisclosed Tue, Dec 1 Demas was held out of the previous game for undisclosed reasons, but he is on target to face Auburn on Saturday.
Chase Lane WR Prob Sat – Arm Tue, Dec 1 Lane left the last game with a left arm injury, but it is not expected to impact his status for Saturday’s tilt against Auburn.
Grayson Reed OL Out For Season – Leg Tue, Oct 6 Reed is projected to miss the remainder of the season due to a leg injury.
Anthony Hines III LB Out For Season – Personal Sun, Sep 20 Hines III has made the program aware that he will not participate in the remainder of the 2020 season as he will opt-out to prepare for the NFL draft.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
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Week 15 Match-up Preview Thread: #7 Florida Gators vs. LSU Tigers

#7 Florida vs. LSU
When: Saturday, December, 12, 07:00 PM Eastern
Where: Ben Hill Griffin Stadium - Gainesville, FL
Watch: ESPN
Odds: Florida by 23.5 pts.
Total Points: 68.0
All-Time Series : Florida vs. LSU
Florida and LSU have met 66 times since 09/25/1937.
These teams last met 424 days ago on 10/12/2019.
Series Wins: Florida 33-3-30 LSU
Longest streak of continuous meetings: 49 (1971-2019).
LSU has won the most recent meeting (2019) in this series.
Last 6 Meetings
Winner Date Location Florida LSU Notes
LSU 2019-10-12 Baton Rouge, LA 28 42
Florida 2018-10-06 Gainesville, FL 27 19
LSU 2017-10-07 Gainesville, FL 16 17
Florida 2016-11-19 Baton Rouge, LA 16 10
LSU 2015-10-17 Baton Rouge, LA 28 35
LSU 2014-10-11 Gainesville, FL 27 30
Series Comparison Data via Winsipedia
Through Week 14
Week Florida 8-1(8-1) Result LSU 3-5(3-5) Result
1 BYE N/A BYE N/A
2 BYE N/A BYE N/A
3 BYE N/A BYE N/A
4 Ole Miss 4-4(4-4) W 51-35 Mississippi State 2-6(2-6) L 34-44
5 South Carolina 2-8(2-8) W 38-24 Vanderbilt 0-8(0-8) W 41-7
6 Texas A&M#6 7-1(7-1) L 38-41 Missouri 5-3(5-3) L 41-45
7 BYE N/A BYE N/A
8 BYE N/A South Carolina 2-8(2-8) W 52-24
9 Missouri 5-3(5-3) W 41-17 Auburn 5-4(5-4) L 11-48
10 Georgia#12 6-2(6-2) W 44-28 BYE N/A
11 Arkansas 3-6(3-6) W 63-35 BYE N/A
12 Vanderbilt 0-8(0-8) W 38-17 Arkansas 3-6(3-6) W 27-24
13 Kentucky 4-6(4-6) W 34-10 Texas A&M#6 7-1(7-1) L 7-20
14 Tennessee 2-6(2-6) W 31-19 Alabama#1 9-0(9-0) L 17-55
All rankings reflect the current /cfb poll
Florida Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-09 10:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Jeremiah Moon LB Ques Sat – Foot Sat, Nov 28 Moon has missed the last three games due to a foot injury, and it is unknown if he will partake in Saturday’s clash against Tennessee.
Nick Oelrich DB Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Oelrich has missed the last two games with an undefined injury, and there is no indication if it will keep him out of Saturday’s lineup versus Tennessee.
Lamar Goods DL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Goods has been sidelined due to an injury to an unlisted area. It has yet to be established when he will next be available.
T.J. Moore OL Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Moore has been held out of the last three games with an undefined injury, and it is up in the air if he will be active Saturday against Tennessee.
Jaelin Humphries DL Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Humphries has been absent from the lineup during the previous three games with an injury to an unlisted location, and it is undetermined if he will be in Saturday’s lineup versus Tennessee.
Quincy Lenton DB Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Lenton has been inactive due to an injury to an unlisted area, and it is unknown when he will next become available.
Joshua Tse UT Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Tse has been sidelined due to an unspecified ailment, and it is undetermined when he will return to the lineup.
Lucas Alonzo DL Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Alonzo has been absent from the lineup due to an unknown ailment, and it is unclear when he will return to the field.
Ethan Pouncey DB Out Indefinitely – Hip Thu, Sep 24 Pouncey will miss an extended period due to hip surgery.
Trent Whittemore WR Out Indefinitely – Ribs Mon, Nov 16 Whittemore will miss an extended period due to a broken rib and punctured lung.
Kahleil Jackson UT Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Jackson has missed the last two games due to an unknown ailment, and it remains to be seen if he will step on the field against Tennessee on Saturday.
Kamar Wilcoxson DB Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Wilcoxson has missed the previous two games due to an undeclared ailment, and it is unknown if he will line up against Tennessee on Saturday.
Hayden Knighton OL Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sat, Nov 28 Knighton has sat out the previous two games due to an undeclared reason, and his availability for Saturday’s matchup with Tennessee is unknown.
Kevin Johnson UT Out Indefinitely – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 1 Johnson has been sidelined due to an unspecified ailment. It has yet to be determined when he will return.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
LSU Injury Report
Data Scraped: 2020-12-09 10:00:03
Player Position Status Reported Notes
Racey Mcmath WR Doub Sat – Undisclosed Tue, Dec 1 McMath missed the last game due to a unspecified injury, and it is unlikely that he will lace up versus Alabama on Saturday.
Tory Carter FB Out Sat – Undisclosed Tue, Dec 1 Carter will be unavailable for Saturday’s matchup with Alabama for undisclosed reasons.
Mo Hampton Jr. S Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 29 Hampton Jr. has missed the last two games due to an undefined ailment, and it remains to be seen if he will step on the field against Alabama on Saturday.
Lloyd Cole CB Ques Sat – Foot Sun, Nov 29 Cole has missed the previous three games with an apparent foot injury, and it is unclear if he will be available against Alabama on Saturday.
Terrace Marshall Jr. WR Out For Season – Personal Sun, Nov 29 Marshall Jr. has left the team to focus on preparing for the NFL draft and will not play for the remainder of the season.
Trey Palmer WR Ques Sat – Undisclosed Sun, Nov 29 Palmer has been held out of the previous two games due to an undeclared reason, and his status for Saturday’s game versus Alabama is in question.
Aaron Moffitt TE Out For Season – Knee Sat, Oct 31 Moffat is expected to miss the entire 2020 season while he recuperates from a torn ACL.
Travez Moore LB Out For Season – Personal Thu, Oct 29 Moore has decided to opt-out for the remainder of the season due to a personal reason.
Nelson Jenkins III DL Out For Season – Personal Tue, Sep 15 Jenkins III has opted-out for the entire 2020 season due to concerns about the virus.
Ray Parker LB Out Indefinitely – Suspension Wed, Sep 9 Parker has been suspended for a violations of team rules, and he is without a definitive timetable for return.
Tyler Shelvin NT Out For Season – Personal Mon, Aug 31 Shelvin has opted out of the 2020 season after making a decision stemming from COVID-19 concerns.
Ja Marr Chase WR Out For Season – Personal Sun, Aug 30 Chase has informed the program that he will not take part in the 2020 season due to a personal decision.
Myles Brennan QB Out For Season – Abdominal Fri, Nov 13 Brennan out of action with a torn abdominal muscle and a hip injury. He is likely to sit out the remainder of the season.
Injury data lifted from: boydsbets.com
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